Matt, Falun Gong propaganda David Kilgour’s promoting has been discredited by multiple undercover investigations.

US government and Chinese dissident investigations:

1) http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/RL33437.pdf (section CRS-7)

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=April&x=20060416141157uhyggep0.5443231&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

2) http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060806_1.htm

http://www.cicus.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=6492

3) http://crc.gov.my/clinicalTrial/documents/Proposal/TCM_Stroke%20TrialProtocol%20synopsis.pdf (page 3)

As you can see, the hospital Falun Gong accused is partly owned by a Malaysian health care company and is subject to oversight beyond Chinese authority.

And are you really suprised that Epoch Times is the one pumping this story? Epoch Times is a FLG propaganda outlet.

The financial connection between Falun Gong and Epoch Times is not a secret. Here's the money trail found in non-profit declarations (Form 990, Page 2, Part III c):

Southern USA Falun Dafa Association. $10,350 were given to Epoch Times in 2002, $22,700 in 2003, $14,750 in 2004:
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2002/760/692/2002-760692185-1-9.pdf
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2004/760/692/2003-760692185-1-9.pdf
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2004/760/692/2004-760692185-1-9.pdf

Falun Dafa Association of New England. $57,609 were spent on computer and print media, $97,755 in 2003, $116,823 in 2004:
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2002/043/576/2002-043576893-1-9.pdf
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2003/043/576/2003-043576893-1-Z.pdf
http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2004/043/576/2004-043576893-02038ba1-9.pdf

(These are but two examples of the hundreds of FLG non-profits in US.)

I can assure that these links Charles Lui alias Bobby Fletcher alias alias has given are now out of date. Harry Wu stated what he said before the investigation began and he was also annoyed and worried that US congress would give the allotted funds to Falun Gong Investigation instead of his own.

The CCp has admitted the organ harvesting is rampant from executed prisoners and they wont admit that they kill Falun Gong even though Amnesty has proved it.

Also Id like to inform the readers of this blog that Bobby Fletcher is spy working for the United Front Works Dept which is at the heart of the Chinese intelligence agency.

Here is some info on them and Bobby who also declares that Tiananmen Square Massacre did not happen.

..Bobby Fletcher is a spy

It has brought to my attention a person calling himself Bobby Fletcher is posting comments to many blogs - I estimate over 100 trying to discredit the Kilgour/Matas report.

I highly suspect Bobby Fletcher, who in one blog denies he is Chinese, is part of China's United Front Works Department, which is at the heart of China's intelligence operations, which I briefly describe below.

I have just spent a couple of hours collecting his comments from the
various blogs and reading his own blogs, which you will find
attached.

Bobby who refers to living in Seattle, also uses two other aliases
Charles Liu and Sunday Service and he has five blogs of his own.

I honestly got tired scanning 100 web sites, but I am sure researchers could find many more.

Bobby needs to be exposed as he truly represents the deceptive tactics used by Communist China to spread disinformation.
I think Bobby Fletcher AKA Charles Liu AKA Sunday Service AKA (fill in the blanks) needs to be outed, as although his lies are seen through by many, he will still create doubts in the minds of others many others and that is part of the tactics of the United Front Works Department - playing percentage games.

One only has to look at how tens of millions believed in Mao to know
these techniques work.

Incidentally you will notice that he also has a web site that the
Tiananmen Square massacre did not happen.
http://www2.blogger.com/profile/17988368193662201410

Highlights of the United Front Works Department

The first words in Mao's Analysis of the Classes in Chinese Society
written in 1926 begins:

Who are our enemies? Who are our friends?

This simple idea laid the foundation for the heart of China's
intelligence operations known as political action work or political
work. In China it became known as the United Front Work whose
deceptive strategy is designed to win the support of non¬Party
"friends" and to isolate and destroy "enemies." Deception is a key
part of their strategy.

Chinese United Front Works Department are usually involved in letter
writing campaigns and insight groups to complain about 'racist'
remarks against the Chinese which often makes Western media fearful of
offending the ethnic Chinese population and hence do not write
articles that are negative about China.

Again its a simple idea, but it works and once one becomes aware of
it, one sees it in operation all the time.

Most of China's intelligence activities abroad are legal. That is why
they are so successful. But, most governments are completely ignorant
about how Chinese intelligence operates.

China's United Front strategy is based upon "co-opting whosoever can
be co-opted and isolating your enemy."

Falun Gong is clearly seen as an enemy by the Chinese communist regime which it has isolated since 1999.
So the campaign is on to discredit the report on organ harvesting and
create doubts about its credibility. And of course continue their
disinformation campaign about the Falun Gong.

A friend who is a journalist in Quebec has sent me a number of
comments in blogs that show to me that the United Front Works
Department is probably in operation there as well, as seeds are sown
to discredit the report. Trying to defend the report, she is now being
attacked!

Have journalists been co-opted? It would be naive to think otherwise.

. I have spent many hours over many days trying to help Bobby /Charles to see the error of his ways/. Bobby even found my private email and began sending me propaganda about Falun Gong as Charles Lui from Seattle.

There are 80,000 internet spies employed by the most repressive evil regime on the planet. Bobby is but one of them.

Bobby where ever you go i will expose you. The brave people in China want freedom of thought and belief want their rich culture back. Not CCP terror culture... Universal condemnation is your future because of the choices you keep. This is not me condemning you Bobby but a higher justice that everyone must face after death.

You are not the messenger Bobby but a vile creature working against humanity.

The CCP has made becoming a better person a crime. Falun Gong practice truth compassion and tolerance and for that reason alone we are persecuted to death in the millions. The CCP is anti humanity and when the world knows the truth of the extent of this Genocide the world's people will weep.

I couldn't agree more Matt.

As for Anon, even the Chinese government hasn't responded to the report yet. Why should I believe his twisted theory?

It sounds like those China's apologists are back again. Every time this topic comes up, they're sure to be there spreading their misleading propaganda all over the blogs.

Makina, don't pretend you know Jana S.

Just like you, Makina, Jana Shearer is a documented Falun Gong disciple and blogsphere operative:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Jana+Shearer+Dafa

Jana has been slandering me with the spy accusation. I have repeatedly denied the allegationa and challange her to produce the proof, to no avail.

So much for these FLG disciple's notion of Truth Benevolence Forbearance.

The latest revision/update of 7/2006 Kilgour report offered no new evidence. The documented cases of people going to China for transpland had no proof the organs came from FLG disciples.

This while the original Kilgour report published back in 7/2006, in addition to being contradicted by multiple undercover investigations, the report was also reviewed and discredited by US congressional researchers.

In "The Collateral of Suppression", a report critical of China written for Senator Dianne Feinstein, member of US Congressional Executive
Committee on China (CECC), congressional researchers Emma Ashburn
and Thomas Lum were quoted:

"Emma Ashburn, a research associate at the Congressional-Executive Committee on China (CECC), said that the Matas-Kilgour report really “offered nothing new” in terms of evidence on the matter of organ harvesting. The evidence they did collect, namely the phone calls and testimonies, were dubious in their objectivity.

Specialist in Asian Affairs at the Congressional Research Service, Thomas Lum, noted that the evidence could have easily been distorted. The individuals calling the hospitals were all affiliated with FLG, and Lum said that it is unlikely for doctors and officials working for the state to casually divulge such sensitive and damaging information so easily.

Moreover, Lum’s efforts to contact both the Chinese journalist and doctor’s wife have been fruitless, as FLG members direct all communications toward these individuals and they often do not respond. Harry Wu, a longtime political activist known for his hardline anti-PRC views, announced on August 9, 2006 that he would challenge the allegations made by FLG about targeted organ harvesting, especially the claim about the Sujiatun concentration camp.

About the report, the South China Morning Post reports, “Mr. Wu, who has spent 15 years gathering evidence on the harvesting of organs from executed Chinese prisoners, said the information was based on the testimony of two witnesses, neither of whom had first-hand information. He believed the reports were fabricated.” Wu had tried to follow up with the witnesses just as Lum had—to the same futility. In the face of these criticisms, including from even Wu, who formerly held friendly relations with FLG, all things considered the allegations FLG has made about a targeted campaign of state-sponsored genocide are most likely untrue."

Hey Chuck!

Who needs undercover reports when you can have official reports like 'Bloody Harvest' written by reputable statesmen. http://organharvestinvestigation.net

The heavy Communist Military involvement in this conspiracy is a shock to some I bet. Would somebody tell Beijing to let in those research teams to complete their investigations? There's more to this story that the world is entitled to know. Although the gruesome evidence already collected is more than enough to call this a genocide.

Do take a look at an excerpt from Transplant Connect that talks about that too.

Military hospitals in China have benefited the most from organ trading. These hospitals have been providing organs and operations for the CCP leaders, and trying hard to attract Chinese patients from overseas. Before the Chinese government started persecuting Falun Gong practitioners, I went back to China several times and visited some friends in military hospitals such as the 301st Military Hospital, the 309th Military Hospital, and the Navy General Hospital. I noticed at that time how luxurious and well equipped each of these hospitals was.

For example, some military hospitals in Guangzhou City and Chongqing City are equipped with rooftop helicopter pads. These hospitals could command military vehicles guarded with fully-armed soldiers. This is an open secret in China.

An ex-transplant surgeon from China, now a western pathologist, described how he witnessed the organ harvesting of an executed prisoner. He told me that before the prisoner was shot, the surgeons, waiting to harvest his heart, painted a target on the prisoner's back to protect his heart. The prisoner was shot once in his right lung. He was then immediately carried into a waiting van where the doctors provided him with oxygen and blood transfusions to keep his heart "alive" before it was taken out.

http://www.transplantconnect.com/news_detail.php?id=16

Bobby Fletcher/alias Charles Lui/alias Teresa Monroe Hamilton who I have been exposing as a spy working for the United Fronts Propaganda Department on all Blogs where he defends anything the Chinese communist regime does.

He even has a blog which denies Tiananmen Square massacre happened. Please see his site at
http://www2.blogger.com/profile/17988368193662201410

I ask the spy/informant why do you defend the communist regime?

The US State Department reports also stated that they are very concerned about human rights atrocities in China. The US investigators were only invited after three weeks since the first exposure of the Illegal Organ Extraction for Profit -- three weeks is enough to move the whole hospital.
In addition, the Foreign Ministry of China invited participants to investigate this issue. However, five independent investigators from Australia, UK and US had their visas rejected to prevent their further independent investigations. The Malaysian Health Ministry's report states that they fund research on health related issues, not organ harvesting. The report was dated 2005, before the illegal organ extraction was first exposed.

So do we reckon Malaysian officials visited every room and underground facility in the hospital? Try calling the Malaysian Embassy for their reply.
I invite anyone to surf the internet for Transplant Australia and you'd notice that China has no support from surgeons here. I also invite anyone to contact or email the British Transplant Society to clarify on the issues of so-called ''donated'' organs from China.

The latest Amnesty International annual report was recently published. Feel free to visit their website with regards to human rights atrocities committed by the Chinese communist regime.

Table 1: AI Records of the Number of People Sentenced to Death/Executed in China each
Year100
Year 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Executed 2190 3500 1644 1067 1077 1000 2468 1060 726 3400 1770
The average number of executed prisoners between 1995 and 1999 is 8401/5 = 1680.2 per year.
The average between 2000 and 2005 is 9698/6 = 1616.3 per year. (4% fewer)
These figures mean that it could not be an increase in the number of executed prisoners that
contributed to the large increase in the availability of organs.
100 http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aireport/index.html, from here you can select the annual report of each year.

The unexplained 41,500 organ donors cannot be explained by executed prisoners, family donors or accident victims. So where do the 41,500 organs come from?

Falun Gong practitioners provide the only plausible answer unfortunately.

Call me a Falun Gong operative if that makes you feel good Bobby but I openly will tell you anything you need to know I"ll answer any of your questions even why i expose the Chinese communist regime for what they are. But why wont you answer me why you defend the Chinese communist regime?

Makina, you've banned me from your blog, so I know you are not interested in honest debate.

Kilgour is a patsy, a compliant friend of the Falun Gong. He got involved at the behest and sponsorship of DC group CIPFG, the political arm of FLG.

From the same Congressional Research Service article:

"The authors hadconducted their investigation in response to a request by the Coalition to Investigatethe Persecution of the Falun Gong in China (CIPFG), a U.S.-based, non-profitorganization founded by the Falun Dafa Association
...
someof the reports’s keyallegationsappear to be inconsistent with the findings of other investigations."

"

There is nothing to debate Bobby. But if you must keep on doubting, and are willing to check other sources, then take a look at BBC’s undercover investigation, followed by posts from Harry Wu’s website.

Organ sales ‘thriving’ in China

BBC- The sale of organs taken from executed prisoners appears to be thriving in China, an undercover investigation by the BBC has found….One hospital said it could provide a liver at a cost of £50,000 ($94,400), with the chief surgeon confirming an executed prisoner could be the donor….In April 2006, top British transplant surgeons condemned the practice as unacceptable and a breach of human rights.

http://www.laogai.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=2658

and this “Video: Sky TV goes under cover” is precious

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-4-26/40842.html

“This report verifies that:
· organs for transplantation are very plentiful in China;
· they are available on demand;
· the organs are supplied from prisoners;
· the prisoners are killed after they are found to match a patient who is awaiting a donor organ.
The nurse who welcomes him at the hospital cheerfully explains that their hospital can get organs “the fastest” because it has the ” best connections.” Waghorn explains the hospital publicly admits its links to China’s paramilitary police.”

China officially admits executed prisoners are the basis of organ trafficking

BEIJING — After years of denial, China has acknowledged that most of the human organs used in transplants here are taken from executed prisoners and that many of the recipients are foreigners who pay hefty sums to avoid a long wait.

http://www.laogai.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=2704

http://www.laogai.org/news/newsdetail.php?id=2703

Bobby, how exactly do you find out whether a spy is spy? Physically that is near on impossible which is why every intelligence agency has great difficulty with charging spies with espionage. We are not as easily fooled as the poor Chinese population so stop using the Where is your proof?? attack.

You can say someone is working for some group by what he says and by what he defends. When the overwhelming proof of your blogs and citations appear all over any site that exposes /reports on the regime I think it s fair comment to say you work for them. I don’t deny that Im a Falun Gong practitioner.

Why do you defend the Chinese communist regime? If you are annoyed with FG okay but those aren't the only blogs you just criticize; you criticize anyone who exposes the truth about the Chinese communist regime. It’s so obvious and ridiculous.

You are only fooling a small minority. I’d say now your job has become redundant, because the longer the CCP fights to maintain its control of the democratic seeking Chinese people the more irrational its mistakes are and then the more information that comes out of China will expose the real truth of this evil ridiculous regime . The world is waking up and more importantly the brave Chinese people are waking up.

Your job has become been redundant.

Anyway like i keep asking and you have never answered is WHY DO YOU DEFEND THE CHINESE communist regime?

The BBC article made no mention or FLG or FLG's live organ harvesting allegation.

Where's your Truth now?

Bobby you better quit the communist regime before the heavens destroy it and all those who support them. Otherwise I hope you like very hot places.

Here read the 9 Commentaries and please register your vote today.
http://ninecommentaries.com/

Jana Shearer, again you fail to provide the proof that I'm a spy. Where's the "Truth" you proclaim?

Calling people names when they disagree with you is the logic of 5 year olds.

Jana Shearer, your false witness against me will put you in very hot places.

I'll ask again, produce the proof that backs up your accusation against me. I am defending truth with facts. All the citations I provided are from US government/NGO sources, and they are in fact critical of China.

Okay Okay then tell me why do you have gripe against Falun Gong? Why do have a gripe against anyone who criticizes the communist regime?

Answer those questions and lets see where they lead us and the readers okay?

Get away from the producing links and lets talk about you and me?

You first please tell us your real gripes?